Babur’s Tomb

Once again the Religion of Peace has triumphed in yet another part of the world. Afghanistan used to be Buddhist once upon a time. Remember the huge Bamiyan Buddhas? The Taliban took care of them. Islam does wonders for any region it occupies.

The picture above is of the tombstone of Babur in Bagh-e-Babur in Kabul, Afghanistan. On an official visit to Afghanistan in 2005, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visited Babur’s tomb to pay his respects to that tyrant. The wiki says,

The violence of Babur in the 1520s was witnessed by Guru Nanak, who commented upon it in four hymns. Historians suggest the early Mughal period of religious violence contributed to introspection and then the transformation in Sikhism from pacifism to militancy for self-defense. According to Babur’s autobiography, Baburnama, his campaign in northwest India targeted Hindus and Sikhs as well as apostates (non-Sunni sects of Islam), and an immense number were killed, with Muslim camps building “towers of skulls of the infidels” on hillocks.

Singh was bowing at the grave of the tyrant who slaughtered Hindus and Sikhs. Singh was paying tribute to the people who slaughtered Sikh Gurus.

Tens of millions of Muslims in India worship Babur. The screen capture below is the ANI report. (Click on image to go to The Tribune Online Edition.)

Somehow Modi will out-do Manmohan Singh. His policy is to allow all Afghanis free entry into India. Basically, Modi wants the Taliban to find a foothold in India. Like Babur before them, they too will murder Sikhs and Hindus before too long.

Nice work, Mr Modi, very nice work indeed.

24 thoughts on “Babur’s Tomb

  1. rcwpacct2019 Sunday August 22, 2021 / 4:25 pm

    How pathetic MMS was? What kind of extreme case of Stockholm Syndrome make someone do that?

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  2. alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 4:54 pm

    Dear Atanu Dey,

    I believe you have severe misconceptions about Islam.

    I’m myself a Sunni Muslim and I strongly disagree with what you said.

    It’s not fair to blame Islam for whatever terrorists and violent people are doing, please understand.

    Do you have Discord? If yes, may I have your tag and username so I can invite you to my server? I would like to show you how wrong you are about Islam and Jihad, because Jihad isn’t what you think it is.

    I understand your anger and frustration, but please be open minded, sir.

    I even have my own website which I dedicate to refute terrorists like Taliban, Hezbollah, ISIS and Hamas so people won’t get mislead by their false info.

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    • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 5:46 pm

      Dear alexanderabood:

      Glad that you are offering to correct my “severe misconceptions” about Islam. Here are some of my conceptions. Tell me which of the following (I have numbered them) are misconceived:

      1. Islam is the perfect religion and every other religion is false.
      2. The world is divided into two distinct groups: the good (mumin) and the evil (kafirs)
      3. It’s the religious duty of the good to offer to convert the kuffers (kafirs, such as yours sincerely) or to kill them.

      Let that be the start of your fixing my misconception.

      Also, do explain why Muslims have carried out wholesale murder of non-Muslims across the centuries and everywhere on earth without any provocation? Do explain why people in Muslim countries are killed for non-belief in Islam. Explain why Muslims have killed millions of Hindus over the history of Islam in India. Explain what the historian Will Durant in his massive scholarly work The Story of Civilization meant when he wrote, “The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.”

      That’s an eminent historian, not some nutjob on the internet.

      Not just non-Muslims, even Muslims are terrified of Islam. They try to escape Islamic countries for fear that they’d be slaughtered by their Muslims neighbors because apostasy is punished with death.

      Heard of Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Well, listen and read what she has to say about Islam. I am not a scholar but she is. Go understand what you are up against if you try to defend the claim that Islam has been good for the world. From what I know about the world, Islam has been an unmitigated disaster. Samuel Huntington (check out the wiki to find out who he is) wrote, ““Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power.”

      Do respond to this reply to your comment. You have an impossible task.

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      • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 6:38 pm

        Atanu Dey said:

        “It’s the religious duty of the good to offer to convert the kuffers (kafirs, such as yours sincerely) or to kill them.”

        My response

        “With all due respect, Islam doesn’t teach force conversions and as a matter of fact I don’t force convert others to Islam as I know it goes against Quran and Tradition”

        Atanu Dey said:

        “The world is divided into two distinct groups: the good (mumin) and the evil (kafirs)”

        My response:

        “Nope, that’s a matter of personal belief, sir. And I have to correct you that the Arabic word kafir isn’t abusive, it simply means disbeliever and the English translation for mumin is believer. So you see? It is not abusive at all”

        Atanu Dey said:

        “Heard of Ayaan Hirsi Ali?”

        My response

        “No, I haven’t heard of him and I don’t wish to go to places where they seek to mislead me with false info! And I’m done going to filthy places where they attack Islam. Besides, God Almighty forbid us from going to such places”

        Atanu Dey said:

        “Islam is the perfect religion and every other religion is false.”

        My response

        “Yes, Islam is perfect religion, because this is what I believe about Islam, do you have a problem with this? Besides, also your belief sir, teaches that all religions including Islam is false but only Hinduism, isn’t it? If so, why this does effect you!?”

        Right now it is night time in my place, but I’ll continue responding to your misconceptions tomorrow. And plus, I have to find answers something which requires me extra time.

        I invite you to my server where we can discuss more about this: https://discord.gg/4rAGska

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        • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 7:10 pm

          Mr alexanderabood:

          It’s great to know that of the thousands of faiths in the world, you were born to the only “perfect religion.” Congratulations. As it happens, I am born to Hindu parents and that’s my misfortune (at least according to you.)

          But aside from bald assertions of perfection, I don’t see any evidence of Islam being anywhere near humanism. It’s an anti-human ideology with killing of innocents at its core. For that assertion, I provide you volumes of evidence. Muslims have murdered wholesale tens or even hundreds of millions of people (Muslims and non-Muslims) over the centuries. There’s nothing in Islam that recommends it to anyone who is not born one. You, for instance, would not have converted to Islam if you had been born a Jew or a Christian.

          Is there any principle in Islam that is good and original to it? No. Is there any principle that is not good and original in Islam? Yes. Anything that is remotely good in Islam, has been around for millennia. What’s original is not good and what is good is not original. So what’s the great thing about Islam? That it’s an Arab imperialist political movement. I don’t know if you are native speaker of Arabic but I bet good money that you have to pray in Arabic to an Arabic deity.

          You write, “With all due respect, Islam doesn’t teach force conversions and as a matter of fact I don’t force convert others to Islam as I know it goes against Quran and Tradition.” So you claim that the hundreds of millions who have been slaughtered for not converting to Islam is a figment of some fertile imagination? Your religion does not compel its faithful to kill non-believers? Are you merely ignorant of the tenets of Islam or are you merely trolling for fu*k’s sake?

          I don’t have any problem with anyone following Islam. My problem is that faithful Muslims consider it their religious duty to either convert me or to kill me. If you don’t understand why this is a problem for me, I am afraid that you are not a person who can be reasoned with. Actually, if you could be reasoned with, you would not be a follower of an Arab death cult. You would reject the inhumane ideology of Islam and if not become an atheist, at least you would adopt a peaceful religion like Buddhism, Jainism or Hinduism.

          This is my final comment in response to your comments. Go forth in peace and enjoy your life before you get your 72 virgins and 28 boys to enjoy in paradise for your belief in the desert moon god Allah. Cheers.

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          • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 7:22 pm

            Atanu Dey said:

            “So you claim that the hundreds of millions who have been slaughtered for not converting to Islam is a figment of some fertile imagination? Your religion does not compel its faithful to kill non-believers? Are you merely ignorant of the tenets of Islam or are you merely trolling for fu*k’s sake?

            My response:

            C’mon, don’t throw your anger on me! And no, I’m NOT trolling!!!

            Atanu Dey said:

            “I don’t have any problem with anyone following Islam. My problem is that faithful Muslims consider it their religious duty to either convert me or to kill me.”

            My response:

            “Which Muslims do that!? Please name them!! Because this is not acceptable!!! I totally understand why you’re angry. I’ll personally deal with these morons.”

            My apologies if I upset you.

            I swear, this is no trolling!!

            My sincere apologies again

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 8:10 pm

              alexanderabood:

              I said goodbye to you in my last comment. But allow me to continue. My question to you in sincere. I realize that you will evade it just like you did my previous questions. But still it is here for the record.

              Which of the following different options (not exclusive) attracts you most to Islam? Options numbered:

              1. The 72 virgins that you can continually copulate with eternally (every ejaculation gives you an instant erection)?
              2. The 28 pearl-like young boys? They are really pretty and their butt-holes are very tight?
              3. The eternal torture of non-believers? Allah pours hot oil down their throats and skins them, and immediately provides new skin that is stripped off so that they can be tortured again for eternity — it never ends!

              There are three non-exclusive options that the Koran lays out. Which of the three (or all of them) gets your rocks off? All three? Well, good for you. You are an immoral insanely stupid person!!

              Answer them.

              Moreover, I suspect your belief is rather shallow. You don’t dare even read criticisms of your desert cult for fear that you will lose your totally irrational, unjustified faith in an inhumane ideology. Have the fuc*ing conviction to read some of the obvious criticisms of your ideology at least. But no! You are too gutless to do that. All you can do is to repeat the same old tired shit about how Islam is good. Why are all Islamic countries sush obvious hell-holes? Because of Islam. Get that, you stupid ignorant Islamist.

              You are a stupid person. That’s the sorry truth and you are a deluded idiot.

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            • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 8:50 pm

              Calm down!!

              Look, I’m trying to be nice with you but you are so evil with me! Why!? What did I do!?

              Ok, I totally understand your anger , but you are making a personal attack as if it is my fault for what Taliban, Hamas, ISIS, Boko Haram etc. do

              I’m not gonna answer your questions as I find them dishonest and hateful. But I understand their root cause!

              And I was trying to clarify misconceptions which you have about Islam. But seems like you don’t want any clarification! But suddenly, you only know to attack!

              And as for the accusation you made against me for evading, you’re wrong! I wanted to say that I don’t have answers right now for your questions.

              Why you cannot see that I’m trying to be nice with you!?

              I wanted to have a peaceful dialogue with a Hindu, but suddenly you attacked me!!

              And I repeat again: I totally understand your frustration and anger

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:09 pm

              You still have not replied to my simple questions. What is it that you like about Islam? The 72 virgins you get to fuck for eternity or the 28 boys you get to fuck for believing in your pedophile Mohammed? Which is it? Don’t evade that bit. Does Islam promise you virgins and boys? Answer you effing retard.

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:12 pm

              No, alexanderabood. You don’t understand my frustration and anger at all. Islam has been motivating people for 14 centuries to kill non-believers. What you don’t understand is that Islam is the reason that innocents are slaughtered wholesale. Try to answer that charge. You are too stupid to even understand the charge, given that your mind has been poisoned by Islam.

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:16 pm

              alexanderabood:

              You are a human. But your mind has been poisoned by the anti-human ideology called Islam. Not a single country in all of history that has adopted Islam is peaceful. They are bloody and murderous. I pity you and your co-religionists.

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:25 pm

              alexanderabood:

              I do judge you if you are a pedophile, like your prophet who liked a 6-year old. I do judge you for wanting to get it on with 28 pretty boys, as promised to you by your “holy” book. I do judge you for wanting to kill non-believers like me. I condemn you to be a vicious barbarian who has no place in a civilized society. I am convinced that you live in an Islamic hellhole (I repeat myself here because Islamic and hellhole are synonymous.)

              Go in peace.

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            • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:27 pm

              I promise to study well the history so I can have understanding of your anger and frustration.

              Also, I really wish I can do extreme changes in Muslim world. And by the way I’m 22 years old! And I still struggle to get this damn diploma from high school. And then I will become a real scholar of Islam and afterwards I will take help from King of Saudi Arabia and other Muslim rulers and I’m gonna fight against Taliban, ISIS, Hezbollah and Hamas.

              And I will make Muslim countries peaceful and beautiful by the power and will of God!

              I’m very serious about it, because this is what I intend to do.

              I really wish there’s something I can do to prove you wrong about Islam.

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:35 pm

              alexanderabood:

              So now I know the reason you are an ignoramus. You were brought up in an Islamic country. You have never read anything that is worth knowing. All you know is what you have been brainwashed into. What you know is limited to what was known to 7th century ignorant desert-dwelling sheep herders. You are just ignorant, not necessarily stupid. Ignorance can be fixed but stupidity cannot. I doubt that you will ever have an open mind to examine the evidence or have the desire to learn the truth about the Arabic desert death cult. But it does not matter. Even if you realize how horrible Islam is for human prosperity, there are a few hundred million Muslims who will continue to create misery and death in the world. Be well, do good work and try to learn a bit of humanity — which is unlikely since you are totally brainwashed into the Arabic death cult.

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            • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 9:49 pm

              Ok, will you please stop being hateful with me!?

              Because I wasn’t hateful with you in first place!

              Also, I read some history and I have some idea and I even watch news!

              I hate this life!!!!

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            • Atanu Dey Sunday August 22, 2021 / 10:09 pm

              alexanderabood:

              Are you simply obtuse (look up the meaning of the word) or are you being simply contrarian for the fuck of it? I don’t hate you — simply because I don’t know you from Adam. I am against the ideology (look up that word as well) you profess. Your ideology is what I’m against, not against you. I don’t know you and I don’t think I’d like to know you considering the hateful ideology that you follow.

              You claim to be 22 years old. That’s good for you — you still have a few decades to learn what the world is about. But you are an ignorant fool. That’s not an attack on you; just the truth. Few 22-year olds know enough about the world, let alone a 22-year old who is brought up in an Islamic country. You have my sympathy more than my contempt. But you can still learn — provided you are open to learning. But I don’t think you can learn. Islam closes minds. Free inquiry is antithetical to that desert death cult. Again you have my sympathy and pity. Be well and goodbye.

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            • alexanderabood Sunday August 22, 2021 / 10:20 pm

              Oh, my misunderstanding. Because, that’s what I thought when you reacted so violently.

              I wish one day we can be friends.

              I wish you nice day, sir

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    • Prabhudesai Sunday August 22, 2021 / 11:37 pm

      It’s not fair to blame Islam for whatever terrorists and violent people are doing

      Not only it is “fair” but it is “rational” to do so. Anyone who believes otherwise is exposing himself to possible extinction at the hands of Islam.

      I would like to show you how wrong you are about Islam and Jihad, because Jihad isn’t what you think it is.

      I am glad that you can prove Atanu Wrong. But may I suggest that it is waste of time because as a lonely economist it is pretty much pointless and will have not impact on the world. I recommend you teach this “true meaning” to your fellow Muslims. Once they have all turned peaceful and once the countries like Pakistan, Afganistan, Saudi Arabia etc. turn much freerer and liberal I suggest we can all meeting in Kabah where we can renovate the temple of Hubal, setup a large Ganesha temple as well next to a Mosque and admire our achievements while having a beer.

      efute terrorists like Taliban, Hezbollah, ISIS and Hamas

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      • Prabhudesai Sunday August 22, 2021 / 11:43 pm

        refute terrorists like Taliban, Hezbollah, ISIS and Hamas.

        It is pointless to refute terrorists like Taliban or Hamas to folks like us (Hindus). Okay! Let me say there is some “True Islam” which is not like what Taliban preaches. Why should I give a fuck ? You go and tell Taliban that they are not following “True Islam” and change their minds not mine.

        Most of us give exactly zero fucks about whether Amish people’s beliefs are “true Christian” because guess what they are not bombing my cities or hijacking planes with my loved ones.

        Whether Taliban or ISIS follow true Islam or not is not my concern because I give exactly zero fucks about Islam, Muhammad or Allah. All I want is them to mind their own business and not create refugees that then come to my homeland.

        So your time is best spend traveling to these countries and converting these groups to “True Islam”.

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        • alexanderabood Monday August 23, 2021 / 2:00 am

          Greetings dear Prabhudesai,

          You said:

          “It is pointless to refute terrorists like Taliban or Hamas to folks like us (Hindus). Okay! Let me say there is some “True Islam” which is not like what Taliban preaches. Why should I give a fuck ? You go and tell Taliban that they are not following “True Islam” and change their minds not mine.”

          My response:

          “Why do you believe it is pointless to refute these motherfuckers like ISIS and Taliban? I cannot trust terrorists at all! I would wage war on terrorists since I have no mercy on them. Oh, I see I wish my mom would let me go to Afghanistan, but she does not let me do so! She believes it’s too dangerous for me to and convince the terrorists. Besides, I’m not the only doing this but many scholars do that and they even make fatwa against them.”

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          • Prabhudesai Monday August 23, 2021 / 2:31 am

            Why do you believe it is pointless to refute these motherfuckers like ISIS and Taliban?

            You have a comprehension problem. I said it is pointless to convince a hindu that “ISIS and Taliban are not real muslims”. Say I get convinced, what good does it for the world ? None. It only makes non Muslims drop their guard against Islam and thus actually end up helping ISIS and Taliban.

            Besides, I’m not the only doing this but many scholars do that and they even make fatwa against them.

            It is irrelevant for non Muslims what the Islamic community is doing against terrorism. What I care about is whether having more muslims near me hurts my quality life or not; and the answer is yes. Any region which has large number of muslims quickly becomes a de facto Shariah zone which restricts my freedom. So I will do everything in my power to ensure that there are no muslims in my land and if they are there convince them to convert to some other faith or become atheists.

            Tell me in your ideal Islamic society will non muslims have the right to drink alcohol, watch porn, draw pictures of Muhammad, perform large scale worships of idols and build temples to celebrate Idols ? Can non Muslims enjoy pork in their homes in your “true Islam” society ?

            Islamic terrorism at this scale is a uniquely Islamic concept. I haven’t see any buddhist militant groups that are bombing far away nations. I haven’t seen Hindus dropping bomb in Paris or killing cartoonists for insulting their gods. I haven’t seen Jewish folks doing knife attacks in London over insult to Judaism. This is a uniquely Islamic problem and it is very clear that it is not the people but the ideology that creates this sick mentality.

            You are young which is good, it means you have ample time before you to change your mind. However, I will suggest you to implore the possibility that that Islam is just a desert cult started by a mentally ill individual who convinced others of his being “prophet”, caused immense destruction and violence, recycled old and contemporary stories into a series of random “teachings” which later fanatics compiled into a book.

            Few centuries later, a young boy is wasting his time and life over this. Trust me it is not worth it. Watch Netflix (or porn), hang out with your friends, have sex and travel around the world seeking pleasure. Islam is not worth wasting your life. There is no heaven, no hell and we all are made up of stardust and in stardust we go.

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            • alexanderabood Monday August 23, 2021 / 5:21 am

              Oh fuck, I just figured out that since I have Autism and Asperger, I have comprehensive problems!

              I don’t have these things…

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  3. Prabhudesai Sunday August 22, 2021 / 11:53 pm

    What I feel sad about Afganistan is that it is not really the fault of the people. It is really the fault of Islam.

    Afganistan is the land of Gandhara Kingdom which played a big role in Mahabharat. It was home to several Buddhist shrines and some great centers of learnings like Takshashila. These are the same people who are now wearing garbage bag around their head and fucking dead bodies[1].

    This is what Islam does to the land.

    [1] https://www.opindia.com/2021/08/taliban-has-sex-with-dead-bodies-says-afghanistan-woman-who-came-to-india/

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