Government of India must ban Faithfreedom.org and Arrest Mr Ali Sina

This is simply intolerable. The site FaithFreedom.org is a terrible site. It has all kinds of information about Islam and its prophet. That is completely unacceptable as Muslims do not like it. When Muslims read it, many get very upset. Which is not a good thing. The government of India must take immediate action and block the site just like it banned “The Satanic Verses” and other things that Muslims find offensive. It will lead to communal violence. For peace and harmony, the government of India must ban FaithFreedom.org. That site is dangerous and I call for its immediate ban.

Please join me and Zameer Ahmed Jumlana, Secretary All India Committee, Indian National League, Mobile: 9811531096, to demand the site be banned. Mr Jumlana has written to Y. S. Dadwal, Commissioner of Delhi Police, INDIA. He wrote, and I quote:

My attention is being drawn about Anti-Islamic provocative website http://www.faithfreedom.org. I personally check the website which contains the Alleged Pictures of Prophet Muhammad . . . which are forbidden according to teachings of Islam.

The details are at Atlas Shrugs. Forbidden according to Islam — which means that it is forbidden to everyone — whether a follower of Islam or not. I urge the Commissioner of Delhi Police to issue an international warrant for the arrest of Mr Ali Sina. He has gone against the law of god and has insulted 1.5 billion Muslims. There can be riots and bombings as a result. For peace and tranquility, I demand that Mr Ali Sina be tried immediately for being the primary cause of communal hatred, violence, murder, killing, rape, and theft.

Mr Ali Sina is a dangerous man. He’s a bigot. He is a danger to the whole world. Just see how terrible his response to Mr Jumlana is. Ali Sina, the demagogue, writes: (Caution: Reader is advised to not read any more if he or she is of a delicate nature and is easily offended. You are warned. Not safe for children or anyone of childish mentality. You proceed at your own risk.)

Response by Mr. Ali Sina:

Dear Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana,

Showing the pictures of Muhammad is forbidden by the teachings of Islam. However, we are not Muslims and we do not abide by the teachings of Islam. Isn’t it absurd that you expect everyone to live by your dictums?

Muslims are in violation of the laws that are the hallmark of the civilized people, such as the Golden Rule, the Human Rights, the equality of genders, the freedom of speech, the freedom of belief, etc. These are the laws that matter to us. They don’t matter to you, because they are not part of your laws.

Just as you file a complaint against us for violating your laws, we are taking you to court for violating our laws.

Which court? The court of the public opinion! It is in this court that we are exposing the deception, the violence, and the hate that is so intrinsic in the religion that you espouse. We are fighting the lies of Islam with truth and winning the minds and hearts of thousands of people, both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Can you defend Islam? Can you prove that what we allege against your faith and its monstrous prophet are untrue? No you cannot. When it comes to logic you are helpless. You cannot defend your evil belief with logic. There is nothing you can do, but to bring legal charges to stop us from revealing the truth about your cherished faith.

You can’t. There is no law that can stop us from telling the truth about any faith, at least not where I live. Here we practice freedom of speech and criticizing religions, including Islam is our birth right.

This is the freedom that you Muslims have always enjoyed, but have denied to others. You think it is okay to destroy churches, synagogues, temples and the houses of worships of other faiths, trash their religions and criticize them. You think it is okay for your prophet to call the Jews, maghdhoob (hated by God), the Christians, gone astray and the Hindus, polytheists and najes (filthy), but you cry like a baby when someone criticizes your faith.

Those are fighting words. He calls Mr Jumlana a cry baby. Now you tell me if that Ali Sina is a dangerous man or not. Mr Jumlana has made a very reasonable demand. He has demanded that nobody do anything that is forbidden by Islam and that all people are required to do as Islam commands. What could be more reasonable. Yet Mr Ali Sina persists with his opposition to being dictated to. Sina is totally out of line here and he should be put in his place as soon as possible. And that place is a prison, if not from a hanging pole.

Mr Sina continues:

Seven innocent Baha’is in Iran are being prosecuted, as I write these notes. They may face execution, because they are accused of “waging war against God and spreading corruption on Earth.” The punishment for these offences in Islam is death. You are not offended by this gross violation of human rights, but you are offended if we show the pictures of Muhammad?

See how unreasonable Mr Sina is. Where does Islam say that Baha’is should not be persecuted. If Islam allows it, that settles it. Islam says that pictures of Muhammad is offensive. So therefore it is. Which part of this does not Mr Ali Sina not understand? Some people can be so utterly unreasonable.

Have you ever thought why Muhammad disallowed his followers to depict him? In his later years, Muhammad suffered from the degenerative disease of achromegaly. Thanks to this disease his bones and cartilages grew disproportionately. His facial features were deformed. He looked like a monster. But Muhammad was also a narcissist and he was very concerned about his image. Consequently, he forbade his followers to depict him. He did not want the posterity to see how ugly he looked. If you want to really know how Muhammad looked, please read my book, Understanding Muhammad: A Psychobiography of Allah’s Prophet. I have unearthed his description, narrated by his nearest and dearest.

You went on to accuse us of “imposing” anti-Islamic propaganda on ardent Muslims.

Really? Have we ever called for jihad against ardent Muslims? Have we said anywhere that Muslims should recant their faith, pay jizyah, or they should be killed? Where is this imposition you are talking about? You fail to see that Muhammad imposed his diabolic faith on others thorugh his numerour ghazwas (raids), that your ancestors and mine were massacred, raped and forced into conversion, but you see an Internet site as an imposition? If a Muslim does not want to read our site, all he has to do is click out of it. Can a Muslim who does not want to remain a Muslim click out of his faith? What will happen to him if he does? Can non-Muslims living in Islamic countries prctice their faith freely? Have you read about the recent violence against the Copts in Egypet? Have you heard of innocent Muslims in Pakistan accused of blasphemy ane lynched by Muslim goons?

Your ancestors, like mine, were buchered and raped by marauding Muslims, and now you are defending the barbaric faith of their abusers? You and I don’t owe any alligiance to the demnic faith of the murderers of our ancestors. Wake up Mr. Jumlana. Don’t betray your own people, your own ancestors, your own culture. Have you become the defender of a cult that destroyed them? Instead of defending the filthy cult of a monster you should defend your own cultuer. You are a Hindu, Be proud of your heritage that has contributed to humanity so much.

I am offended by what Mr Sina writes. I object in the most forceful of terms. I demand in the name of all things holy and sacred that he be immediately arrested. Perhaps a red-letter warrant (or is it red-corner warrant) be issued by Interpol and MI-5 and the FBI and CIA and the NIA (that’s the Indian investigative agency, for those international readers of this blog) and Mr Sina be immediately arrested. Have I said that Mr Sina is a danger to civilization and to all creation? If I have not, it is high time I did. Mr Sina is a danger to civilization and to all creation. There.

It is amazing how Muslims can be so genuinely hypocritical. You accuse us of something that befits Islam. FFI does not have means of torture to impose anything. Any time a Muslim can’t handle us, relief is a click away. But they are coming. They are reading what we write and they are leaving Islam. We do not impose our views, but the truth is compelling.

Well, Mr. Zameer Ahmed Jumlana. Unlike Muslims I am a fair person and would like to give you the opportunity to defend your faith. Show us that Islam is a religion from God and not an idiotic faith concocted by a mentally and physically sick individual. Prove us wrong and I will not only publish your rebuttal, but also announce publicly that I was wrong and even will give you $50,000 dollars as reward.

That is not all. I am going to do something that is inconceivable for Muslims and may even shock the non-Muslims. We have a blog section in this site. I am going to let Muslims to run their blogs. Yes that is right! From today, I announce that the blog section of FFI is open to all those who want to prove us wrong. We are working on a new application for this site that will be easier to use. It will be launched in about a week. I am going to create a new chapter in the blogs section for Muslims to respond to all the charges made against Muhammad and Islam.

How about that for freedom of speech? Of course Muslims have been always free to post anything in the forum and in the comments section of faithfreedom.org, but now they can also write blogs refuting FFI right on FFI. Show me one Islamic site that allows opposing comments, let alone giving their critics blogs to refute them.

So, Dear Mr. Jumlana, instead of crying like a baby and complaining to authorities, please act maturely and start refuting what you believe are “distortions” in our site.

There he goes again. Mr Sina and his potty mouth — calling dear Mr Jumlana a cry baby. Would you stand for it? You should not. You should call for the decapitation of Mr Sina. I hereby announce a reward of Rs 50 (about US$1.12 at current exchange rates) to anyone who would murder Mr Sina.

This offer is open to all Muslims. Muslims can now have their own blogs to refute us on FFI. I have a hunch that their blogs will be very popular, provided they write scholarly articles. But be also prepared to be debunked and refuted. You are free to write anything and you readers are free to comment and show your errors.

There are some conditions.

1- You must not use copy pasted articles from other writers. What you publish on FFI must be your own writing.

2- Your articles must be in response to the charges made against Muhammad. The intent is to prove FFI is wrong and Islam is indeed a true religion.

Are you up to the challenge? If we are distorting the facts, as you accuse us, it should be easy for you to prove us wrong. The antidote to lies is truth. Show us the truth and debunk everything we say, in konta men al sadeqeen.

By searching your name in Google, I see you are a professional complainer to authorities and an avid lawsuit maker. But I did not find any scholarly article penned by you about Islam. I hope you will be able to defend your faith logically now that you have exposed yourself to all and sundry. Don’t try to bully the critics of Islam to silence, it won’t work anymore. Instead try to refute them wrong, if you can.

Wish you the best

Ali Sina

The man says “wish you the best”! Did you read that! What sort of a demented crazed bigoted murderous evil satanic spawn is the man!

I will personally write to Mr Manmohan Singh and his boss and demand that he spend a few sleepless nights just worrying about the injustice that FaithFreedom.org is doing. Please join me now. Please go to www.faithfreedom.org now and register your protest and read what they write. Horrible stuff, I tell you, horrible stuff.

UPDATE: July 2011 — This post is written tongue-in-cheek. It should be clear that I support Mr Ali Sina, and that I am a freedom of expression and speech fundamentalist. Anyone who believes that I am actually against Ali Sina has not understood the real message. In fact, Ali Sina has read this post and understands that I am a friend and well-wisher of his.

Added Nov 2012: I have closed comments to this post. Thanks all.

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Author: Atanu Dey

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99 thoughts on “Government of India must ban Faithfreedom.org and Arrest Mr Ali Sina”

  2. Since this is a Canadian website, at most they can block it in India.

    Somebody should make a mirror of the site in anticipation of the eventual block.

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  3. This needs to be brought to the urgent attention of our secular vanguards at NDTV and CNNIBN. I can see a We the People episode on this which will send me into yet another month long coma.

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  5. I used to visit FFI regularly untill I felt that I had way too many disagreements with Ali Sina who runs the website. In any case if case there are hundreds and thousands of anti-christian, anti hindu websites. Infact all Islamic websites poke fun and make jest of every other other religion. However I would never want a ban on those website or any other website for that matter.
    As for a ban on the website I don’t really think it is possible no matter how hard the Islamist in question tries to have it banned. As for having Ali Sina arrested, I don;t think that is possible either since he is the citizen of a free country and not a banana republic like India.

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  6. Atanu, why don’t you do an article on our “secualr Media” and maybe add the stalwarts of the “secular media” for good measure. In almost all of the interviews I used to watch on Indian television channels (I have stopped watching Tv altogether now) I could see the presenter’s bias against hindus and those who they believed to be against their perverted secular agenda.
    Recently I my friend told me about some late night Tv show in which the Congress (ABC—-Z) spokeman, some Tiwari fellow said that Kashmiri Pandits fled the valley because of jagmohan and had nothing to do with the killing, the rapes, the threats and fatwas issues by the Muslims. This is an insult to the 400,000 or more Hindus who had to leave behind the land of their ancestors because of a clear and present danger.
    As someone who was physically present in kashmir in those days, the least I can say is that as a kashmiri pandit life was hell. The local mosuqes used to give out fatwas asking hindus to leave kashmir or die. The cries all around kashmir in those days were “Assi Gassi Pakistan, Battav Rust Batanav San” which means ” We want Pakistan, without the Pandits and with their women.” Clearly Mr. Tiwari was just potraying his hatred towards the hindus who had the flee leaving behind everything for safety.
    Today the same people are advancing forward and are threatning our persence in the lands we live in today. The Islamist agenda is very clear, the earth belongs to us and we shall have it.
    The so called bleeding heart liberals who are siding with the fanatical jihadis are doing so at the cost of our lives and our very existance.
    If they wish to love these people then they should go and love them, but they have not right to ask something so brazenly idiotic and suicidal of them. I will fight these enemies of humanity and destroy their ideologies. I am not the victim of the Stockholm Syndrome and I don’t need a fool’s perverted and distorted vision to be able to see the truth.

    Atanu, let me know if you wish to write something on this issue, I can also provide you with the scanned images of the fatwas that were passed by the local mosques during those times.

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  7. Amit:

    Writing about “secular media” — I think there are excellent writers on the topic already. I have to concentrate on stuff that I want to write about, which is mainly to do with economic development. I get distracted by the commies, congressies and islamists.

    I suggest that you offer those images of fatwas to Sandeep at http://www.sandeepweb.com/

    Thanks.

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  12. Atanu – I totally agree, this Ali Sina needs to be arrested, jailed, tortured, and finally shot dead. It is seriously wrong the way he questions Islam and makes Mr.Jumiana cry. I think only I can feel the deep distress and hurt that Jumiana is feeling. So what if millions were butchered by Mohammed and company, that is the reason no images of him are to be published. So I hope all muslims will rise and start blogging at FF. Of all the interpretations of Koran, all the documentaries like Fitna which abound, there hasn’t been one logical argument by any muslim anywhere on any of these facts. It is rather very harsh that people expect muslims to respond logically. If one has to accept Islam, the first thing you do is throw out logic. Simple!

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  16. If Muslims scholars can defend their faith, then why need to call the attention of indian government or to other muslim countries to ban this website??? Is it because they find it difficult to refute the issue. They are coward to face the issue maybe because that is the reality!!!! They easily show their anger to non-muslims and call for killing and beheading!!!! That is challenge for you. You’ll never find from any christian country of this world banning Islam websites discussing about their own faith and discussing against christianity!!!! christians will answer their accusation and did their best to refute the issue whereas in Saudi Arabia, faithfreedom.org is totally banned!!!! WHY??????? Is nobody in muslim world can refute Mr. Ali Sina’s accusation against Islam????

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  17. I am a muslim, I read carefully ali sina site, bulshit he is trying to misunderstand islam, why ban site? need not to ban site or arrest ali sina, we have to reply by starting another site or try to reply through your site. This is the way islam teach I really believe the life after death, Ali sina will be punished there.

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  18. Ahamed,

    Go to hell. You Muslims are filth.
    Ali Sina is a great humanist who is exposing the
    filth known as Islam.

    Long Live Ali Sina

    Am a Proud Hindu

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  19. Atanu,

    Why don’t you prove Ali Sina wrong!

    He himself declared that he will shut down the site and will pay $50K.

    What kind of person are you? You want to shutdown the site just because Muslim don’t like it? Are you from Congress party? B’cos only congress loves to lick Muslims’ shit hole.

    You did make a show of your Racist mentality by taking side. Anyways,I am pretty sure you are of no worth in putting any valid argument against the site,so I suggest,why don’t you seek help from your Muslim brothers and prove Mr Sina wrong. In the process,you may find some Muslim actually get in touch with the truth.

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  20. hi,
    Ali Sina is a great human, he exposed quran, muhammad, and islam in full light so that the muslims who are still in dark should enlighten.
    muslims think that their religion is true and all are false. now they have to shut their mouths and convert into their ancestral religion i.e, to become hindu and follow vedas.

    may god bless Ali Sina.

    Note: If ffi is banned another website will be launched.

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  21. atanu mohamad ne kaya kuch nahi kiya 6yr ki girl ko saadi kiya, step son ke biwi se saadi kiya,murder kiya,rape kiya,after killed of her husband he raped mascared lots of people how can you are defending islam,koi crime baccha hai kaya pls tell me you read the koran properly after that you reply my question

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  23. anyone who is afraid of criticism is a bloody liar. i support freedom of speech, religion and association. if you feel offended counter the article with positive one about the religion your profess. then, do you really know the religion you profess? keep your mind open and do some research about your religion maybe then……you will see the TRUTH for yourself. BE OBJECTIVE!!!!

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  24. why muslims always want the world to be SECULAR but no one can ask them to practice secularism in islamic countries ?
    when muslims are in minority they want others to be secular but when they are in majority they just deny the basic human rights to its religious minorities .
    why india government should also not ban zakir naiks site where he compares religion ?
    why zakir denies to debate with ali shina ?
    why only india has to practice secularism and not the islamic countries too ?
    why muslims always seek support and favors from others and never care for others when they are in majority ?
    why islamic pakistan denies protection to its religious minorities like christians , sikhs , hindus and ahemadias ?
    why muslims are so lame in facing criticism but never miss any chance to criticise others ?

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  25. Hi Antanu Dey,
    Super Laughs with your writing. I want to know one thing. Did they actually call for a ban ? :-)). Continue the good humor.

    I came to your blog from the FFI Site.

    With Regards,
    Ram

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  27. ali sina is a great man.these muslims can’t refute him. Therefore they want it banned. Why don’t any of u just prove him wrong? He’ll give $50,000 to him! He speaks for truth and humanity.

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  28. what about zakir naik? He’s openly supporting terrorism. He has shown enoromous amount of communal hatred in his speeches. He’s the one who should be banned.

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  31. hi guys,
    we all want to live in harmony but if the muslims r in majority they dam care about ur culture and religion but when they r in minority they ll try to be polite but be careful guys these guys are not loyal to any religion and any non muslim friends
    my english friends always used to say me that if these guys want to live in burkas why they come to our half naked country go back to ur place
    nowdays there is a big threat of bangladeshis in india be careful my brothers hindus

    say produly and loudly that im hindu
    har har mahadav

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  32. If the claim is to ban faithfreedom site which makes muslims emotional, then first you should ban the quran totally or remove certain parts of it for offending & insulting all other faith. All of us including hindus, christians, jews are insulted by that book, thank God nobody know Arabic. We have given you space in our land after partition because of our peaceful nature of hindus and we have faced so many tragedies. We did not forget what was done to us in the past by muslim rulers & now in Kashmir, Pakisthan & Bangladesh. So, don’t rise your heads. There is a limit for everything. A time will come when we can’t withstand your evil relgion & we will react with same coin, then you will know every action will be followed by a reaction which will be more serious. Certainly Ali Sina is not quoting any lies. Actually, whatever he is writing is from quran, hadiths & sira & he is making the islamic wisdom reachable to all the people who don’t know Arabic. This is like preaching the vedas to non-brahmins. The mullahs keep the wisdom for themslves & don’t allow other to know & also threaten the people who doubt with appostacy or hellfire this is not fair. The quran claims to be divine so all mankind has the right to know it as it is without any third party intermediatory ie the mullas fairytale. So let all know what it contains for mankind. What is the problem in that? Ali is just teaching islam as taught my Muhammed without any mask thats it!

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  33. Dear Atanu, your sarcasm is a bit complex. I also didnot find it sarcastic till I read the reward of Rs. 50/- you offered to kill Dr. Ali Sina. I am also of opinion that Dr. Sina is a terrible guy. For the last 20 years or so he has been single handedly spreading the truth about Islam, the mighty cult in the garb of religion and made it possible for thousands of muslims to see the reality. It is then no wonder that Zameer Ahmed Jumlana and his ilk get angry with Dr. Sina. If they could, they would have murdered him by now. So he is doing the next best thing he can do- imploring the Govt. to ban his site and file petitions to arrest him. What is Dr. Sina’s fault? He tells the truth about Islam and presents his arguments in a most logical way. How can muslims stand this?I am also supporting your viewpoint. Ali Sina should be arrested for telling the truth. If possible, he should be beheaded for this heinous crime. But alas, this is India, not an Islamic country. So I suggest that Zameer Ahmed Jumlana approach some Islamic country like Saudi Arabia or Iran with a request to behead Dr. Ali Sina. Most probably,they will find merit in his petitions!

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  34. y should the website be banned?? ali sina is doing a great job… if one can think straight he can visit the website and check out for himself. It is a great website that is helping millions of people differentiate between truth and evil… any person with a sound mind will agree with ali sina when they visit the website. just read a few articles and find out for yourself….tell everybody you knw and help in spreading the site.

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  35. There can be riots and bombings as a result. For peace and tranquility, I demand that Mr Ali Sina be tried immediately for being the primary cause of communal hatred, violence, murder, killing, rape, and theft.This is the reward that Islam has in store for those who exposes the hidden truth in Islam.That shows the mentality of the Muslims. My History professor used comment ” Muslims are a dominant majority and a turbulent minority. Islam is a monolithic religion. Indian governmentis neglecting its responsibilities to check the spread of Islam. Under the guise of ” Minority community ” the evils of Islam is being gloss overed.It is common people not the son and daughters of Ministers and Member of Parliament who are dying due to Islamic terrorism. The use of words such as Kafir and najis should be banned at first. But When will the Govt.of India raise to the occasion ?

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  37. Mr Ali Sina present us the true fact, he is quite logical and every argument of his article carry his great knowledge.

    The Religion Islam need to modify entirely to fit into this modern world, At present this is the worst philosophy.

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  38. One more thing to notice,

    Mad People of Islam threaten to kill Mr. Ali Sina. We Indian are not accept that kind of behavior from anyone. why are not thy looking for Ajmal Kasab.

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  39. Well who is this idiot, who is asking to ban FFI. Let me inform you ythat each and every article over there is backed up with proper evidence from Islamic scriptures..

    Muslims are getting what their Quran saus, what is wrong in that.. hello son of seculars here, go and see these Muslims whom you r defending have raped 30,000 hindu girls in Kerala.. Ali Sina is defender of humanity. Anyways Quran in Ch9 verse 29 says that non-believers like the admin and all of us are filthy creatures..Are you defending that violent Allah and Rapist Muhammad..

    visit my site http://www.thefalseprophet.co.cc to know abt Islam

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  41. So many comments from psuedo-secularits, pakis and muslim terrorists.. Faith freedom is one of the most explosive sites out there.. Extremely insightful about islam.. Go to any islamic site and the only thing they do is Hindu bashing.. and that too baseless Hindu bashing without even understanding the subtexts.. islam is one of the most vile religions to exist ever and needs to be simply banned.. Thanks to websites like faithfreedom and all, more and more people in the heart of islam: middle east are becoming Atheists..

    ANother fundamental point to be raised.. : Freedom of expression.. and yes.. stop crying Atanu (and Mr Jumlana)..
    Are you seriously arguing that islam hasn’t preached violence everywhere??? All over the world, they only seem interested in implementing the barbaric shit known as sharia.. Get a life and stop sleeping with the enemy..

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  44. ha ha ha, Mr Jumlana is unable to defend his faith. He cannot convince us that FFI is wrong in it’s criticism. He instead calls for beheading Ali Sina for speaking his mind.

    WHAT FURTHER PROOF MUST WE NEED?

    It is obvious that islam is evil in its core. People follow it out of ignorance,fear or both.

    Islam has survived and grown over the years only through violence and the high fertility of it’s followers.

    As more people are exposed to the truth, they will find that islam is the most INTOLERANT religion in the world and it condemns them to a life of ignorance.

    I love muslims, i have a lot of muslim friends, friends who are good at heart.. but i hate islam..

    a good muslim cannot be a good human being..
    a good human being cannot be a good muslim..

    dont behead me for my views, please

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  45. Brahmadutt atanu, i cudn’t get the sarcasm till i c
    ame to the reward portion
    The attempt needs refinement. We must add a few more of his quotes fom ali sina.

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  46. @yeshudas, go to the site faithfreedom.org. there is a section stating the questions you can ask muslim friends with.
    They might twist your questions better yet lead them to faithfreedom.org site
    .

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  47. i support ali sina from the bottom of my heart. Bcoz he has exposed all the truth and lies about mohamad islam and quran. Now my dear friends wake up and tell everyone about the site by ali sina. God bless ali sina.

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  49. Why don’t the same is applied on Dr Zakir naik who is brainwashing my
    muslim brothers. Ali Sina is attacking directly so no problem but what about Zakir Naik who raises question on others faith and represents himself great learner of Islam & Koran.

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  50. Dear all,
    Comments in Islam here at this site is unreasonable.Just like we can not prove Alla/Mohammed’s divinity,Ali Sin ha too can not prove his charges.Hence he should discontinue such hate-mongering.
    God will bless only us,Muslims.
    Nargis Ayubkhan

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