Suicide! Suicide! — Part 2

This is a follow up to the post “Suicide! Suicide!

Of shoes and ships . . .

Let me tell you a story. This happened many years ago on a train journey. A couple of children were running around the compartment playing. The father of one of the kids, busy talking to a fellow traveler, would every now and then stop his son and tie the kid’s shoelaces. He repeatedly retied the laces but in a few minutes they would mysteriously come untied. I watched with growing frustration and anger at the senselessness of what the man was doing.

He had correctly identified the superficial problem: kid running around with untied shoelaces is likely to trip and go for a toss. But he had no idea of what the deeper problem was, and that he was indeed the cause of the problem. In fact, his actions merely intensified the problem. He was mechanically reacting to the untied laces without stopping to figure out why they were coming untied. He did not realize that they were coming untied because the kid was untying them and why.

The man would sit the kid down on the seat and, while continuing to talk to his friend, use all his adult strength to tighten the laces. Then, and out of sight of his father, the kid would untie them because they were uncomfortably tight. The next round the father would tie them even tighter and the pattern was repeated. If only the man had had enough sense to figure out the problem, he would have tied the laces lightly. The kid, busy in his play, would not have even have noticed that he was wearing shoes.

I think that story illustrates a general point. Not paying sufficient attention to figuring out the real problem has consequences. Often it leads to counter-productive action, and in some cases actually exacerbates an existing problem.

A bit of Arithmetic

Let’s make a simple 2-sector, 2-good model. The sectors are agricultural (A) which produces food (F), and non-agricultural (NA) which produces manufactures (M). Let’s assume the following conditions.

  1. Total population is 100.
  2. Full employment.
  3. Autarky. That is, there is no foreign trade.
  4. Food satiation. You cannot consume more than one unit of food.
  5. No non-food satiation. You can always consume as much M as you can get.
  6. Perishable. Both F and M have to be consumed in the period produced.
  7. Terms of trade determined by the demand and supply of F and M.

So if 70 people work in A, then the maximum production is 100 units of F.  That maximum is dictated by the total demand for F, which is 100 units for the total population. Therefore the average income in A is 100/70, or approximately 1.5 units of F. Per capita they consume 1 unit of F, and so the average disposable income in A is 0.5 units of F, which can  be used to buy M. Let’s call this state “I2008” — what is pretty much the condition in 2008 in India.

If instead of 70, only 35 people work in A but still produce 100 units of F. With this higher productivity, the per capita income doubles to approximately 3 units of F, and the per capita disposable income is 2 units of F.  Let’s call this state “I2050” — possible but not certain for India in 2050.

If the US population were 100 people, then their A sector employs 2 people. The average income in the A sector is 50 units of F and the average disposable income in the A sector is 49 units of F. We will label this state “US2008.”

The worker in the A sector in the US is wealthier than the Indian A sector worker because the former have higher productivity. That higher productivity is the result of capital: more machines, more inputs (mostly hydrocarbons for fuel and fertilizers), and more human capital. Whether the A worker in the US is more efficient than the A worker in India is a matter that we will not go into: it is a different issue and going into it will only complicate the point that we are investigating now, which is why are Indian farmers committing suicide and what can be done about it.

To sum up . . .

Average income depends on average productivity. When the surplus production of food by seven people is only sufficient to support an additional three persons, the disposable income of the agricultural sector is very limited.

In the next piece, we take a look at how we can move from I2008 to I2050. That move is what will stop the suicides. That move is unlikely to happen if the policymakers persist with their current policies. These policies are not new. Those policies have ensured the continued misery of the farmers of India. We have to recognize that these policies are a rational response to the larger system. Both the policies and the unfortunate consequences flow inexorably from the logic of the context. The current debt relief to some farmers is undeniably a rational response in the current political climate. That it is shortsighted and severely harmful is part of the package.

The farmers’ face a chronic problem and therefore an acute short-term solution is inappropriate because it will merely postpone the actual solution and thus set the stage for intensified and more wide-ranging problems.

The biggest problem India faces is the inability–and I think more unfortunately  the unwillingness–of its policymakers to understand what the basic problem is. They routinely try to apply band-aid solutions to systemic problems.  That’s our greatest challenge.  

Related post: The Plough and the Keyboard. This one provides some background for the current situation. I highly recommend this post.

NOTE: I will keep using the 2×2 model above. It has a lot of simplifying assumptions but as I go along, I will relax some and work out the consequences with the objective of arriving at a more realistic picture. This series continues in a few days.

Author: Atanu Dey


5 thoughts on “Suicide! Suicide! — Part 2”

  1. The band-aid solutions will keep on coming because that’s what gets them elected. Not one politician in this country has the balls to stand up and say what needs to be said and do what needs to be done. The day someone does that, he’ll have my respect and my vote.


  2. Farmers get loans for extravagant marriages of their son/daughters, buying costly fertilizer, costly seeds, or costly agricultural equipment.

    Tell me, when 5 people do the agricultural stuff of 100, and supposedly the remaining 95 are engaged in such productive jobs as spewed forth by our modern economy, how are we better served?

    And what the hell are you spouting of rich American workers? Most workers here are Mexicans paid around minimum wage. I don’t know how you got your Phd in Economics but spout unthinking bs like this. I expect better from you.

    Control of food should not rest with just 5 people, because they will have the rest squeezed by their balls. And how about tying production of food to hydrocarbons whose price fluctuates wildly? You have to decouple food from hydrocarbons.

    Take the correct ingredients in your ‘models’ before you attempt to justify your articles. Are you being paid by somebody to do this?


  3. Clearthink!
    Its obvious that u cant clearly think.
    Stop spouting bs and just think!
    If 2 people produce the same output as 1 person, then even under an equal sharing agreement they will only get half of what the single persons team is producing.
    Any Model that does not address this is Fucking around and is Perpetually going to redistributing poverty.

    Most workers are not Mexican(despite having a few million legal and legal mexican americans)
    And Hey
    IN US only<5% is in agriculture, and obesity is a problem(hardly an indication of balls being squeezed by market) The obesity has created problem for some who cant see their balls when they look down.
    And your intellectual virilitys on public display here(Its at par with a Eunuchs testosterone level)
    when you think the cost of hydrocarbon is not a “correct ingridient” in your model.

    I sincerely hope that you fuck your budget when you decouple hydrocarbon from everything in your monthly/yearly spending.

    If you are older than 12 yrs of , its a shame you cant judge the one of the simplest correct ingredient and much worse that you are cocky and spout BS about what should be in an agricultural economic model.


  4. What happens to the extra people who don’t actually do productive jobs? And why do you really need disposable income? To buy cheap stuff and knick knacks which don’t really matter? Do you want to turn our country into another consumer? And tell me how will the world sustain so many consumers? You realize there are finite resources and limited recycling. I predict in 25 years a severe downsizing and reduction in consumption.

    Why are poor Americans more obese than the rich? Because they eat cheap unhealthy food.

    And why do you have to educate people when they have to struggle to put the money on the table of the order of lakhs? And giving a education matters nothing when there is no guarantee of a job which will pay off those loans. And why do you need education to think? You get a job in any company in modern times, and they train you the way they want anyway. So whats the point of spending lakhs in getting useless education.


  5. “I predict in 25 years a severe downsizing and reduction in consumption.”
    What ingredients went into making that prediction?
    I suspect its due to the same process that led you to conclude most work in US is done by mexican.

    More americans are obese
    b/c they EAT A LOT OF CALORIE RICH FOOD THAN THEY CAN BURN, not some poor quality food.
    Even in poor neighborhoods you see healthy tall kids not stuntet ones you see due to malnutrition.

    You are flamebaiting chutiya who is spouting BS here.


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